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Evelyn's daughter is Sue. She wrote to me (Nick P75) on 03 Oct 2009 as follows. I am attempting to incorporate Sue's notes into this GEDCOM. (Nick 2022)
Dear Nick,
my name is Susan Wolstenholme, my mother was Evelyn Willder
daughter to Joseph Willder and Robina Henderson, I am writing with some
information that may fill some gaps and correct some of the confusion in
your Willder tree. From my research it would appear that there were no
Willders (Wilders Willdens!!!! whatever ) living on the Fylde coast before
the arrival of my Gt grandfather Samuel who came to the Fylde some time
before the 1881 Census. Presumeably this is how he met Jane Moss as she was
born in Lytham yet they married in Bury. Despite the males born, there seems
to be suprisingly few Willders in the area even now. I hope this is not too
difficult to follow. I will no doubt be able to help further as I dig
deeper, but for now some you know some you don't but it helps with
clarity.......
Sarah Wilder c1838 b Ashbourne
married Thomas Taylorc 1839 Bury
Mary 1863 Bury
Elizabeth Ellen 1865
Clara 1869
Betsy 1872
Thomas 1883
James c1832 b Bury
married 2Q 1854 8c 462 Bury Margaret parkinson c 1835 b Bury
William Willder c1853 I believe he was something of an alchoholic and
possibly a rogue!
married Susan Baker c1857 in 1874
? Herbert 1877 died 1877
Alice Jane c1879 b Bury married William Osbaldeston c 1878 b Farnworth in
1900 Fylde alice dies 1908 leaving one daughter Florence c1906
James 19.5.1882 died 1959 in Canada Married Mary Dundas Harrigan
?Maggie (Need to prove this is Williams daughter) c1883 b Bury married 1909
Fylde to Ernest Frederick Jowett
Mary Annie 1885 1Q Preston 8e 647 married Richard de Melville Reath 3.3.1909
in Elgin Ontario
Edith Annie c 1887 Died 1925 in Canada Ontario married Fred (James) Gould in
1912 Fylde
?Maude c1888
May Mabel 1889 b Blackpool (see below)
After the death of Susan, William married Ellen Rangeley in 1891 2Q fylde 8e
970 (nee Wilkinson)who dies 1894 Without Issue?
then not Jane ? as on your site but
Elizabeth Newman (nee Bentley) aged 38 22.10.1894 in Blackpool William
refers to hiself as a Batchelor on the marriage cert.But no question it is
him, father James Cab prop. Witnessed by Edward Gaskell and Alice Jane
Willder, his daughter. only months after the death of Ellen (Eleanor)
However Elizabeth Willder aged 64 then remarries to Thomas Gray 17.9.1919
stating that she is a widow. Do I assume that she was divorced from William
as you have him dying in Bury in 1940? Do you have access to this death
certificate or a reference?
Also to explain PHYLLIS MARY WILLDER
Williams daughter May Mabel born 1889 gave birth to Phyllis Mary 2.12.1907
illigitimately. Phyllis appears in the 1911 Census as the adopted daughter
of John Robert Brown and Etty or Betty Brown living in Ardwick Manchester
with Sarah Elizabeth Brown Mother-in-law 'Certified Midwife' !!
May Mabel later marries Albert Clark and has 5 children Bertha M c1912,
Albert c.1914, Edward T c 1916, Dora c1917 and George 1919,
May's husband Albert dies in France at Flanders in 1918
She then marries Matthew Winder in 1919 in Salford, now known to them as
Mabel May there are no children from this union.
Samuel Willder 1861 b Bury Cab driver, labourer and chimney sweep and also
had donkeys on the beach for tourists. Cannot understand why he should have
died in Manchester as the family home was still 5 Cross Street, which was
only sold after the death of Robina in 1986
Married Jane Moss c1860 who died in 1896 Fylde
CHILDREN Christopher 1885 married Mary Jane Kelly 1904 ? Issue
Annie 1888 Married James Worden 1910 Fylde
Edward 1889 Married Mary Cumpsty c1893 in 1912
Children ?Edith b1915 d 1915
Hilda M Willder b1913 married Joseph H Moss
James 1891 is living in Lytham as a boarder in the 1911 Census working as a
Stoker. Don't know what happened to him?
You have James as a chimney sweep of 5 Cross Street St Annes, however I know
that my grandfather Joseph was a chimney sweep at this address in the late
50's and for many years after He died at this address.
Samuel married again to Jane Turner ( nee Fisher )c1864 born Lytham Jane had
four children from her first marriage to William Turner)
Married 2Q 1897 Fylde 8c 1325
Jane died 1921 Fylde
Children Fred c1898 died?1927 Do you have proof of this.
John 1900 Died WW1
Vincent 1901 M May Barrow
( James D son of Vincent had three children Sonia J 1964
Rosemarie 1966 and ?????? David James 1968 )
( Robert son of Vincent had two more daughters Deborah 1962
and Janet 1965 both in the Fylde )
May 1903 M Edmund Cartmell
Joseph 1906 M Robina Henderson
JOSEPH WILLDER 1906 MY GRANDFATHER died 13.5.1973 fylde
married 1928 fylde to Robina Henderson b 1906 Workington who died 1986 Fylde
CHILDREN
Still born infant ? named c 1930
Evelyn 1931 Died 2008 Fylde Married Robert Barnes 1950
Colin 1936 Died 1998 in Fareham Hants Married Jeanne I Purver c1930 Fareham,
in Portsmouth 1960 NO ISSUE He was in the navy, a submariner.
Dorothy 1937 Died in Toronto Canada 2004 Married David Appleton 1939 b
Chorley
Robin 1943 married Christine J Park (nee Chambers ) in 1973
CHILDREN
Anthony Joseph Willder 1974 b Blackpool Married Emma J Harrison 1998
Julie Hazel Willder 1980
David James Willder 1980 Twins Married in Japan
ADOPTED CHILDREN from wifes previous marriage
Anna Willder c 1969
Deborah H Willder c1970
Josephine 1945 Fylde Married Gordon Welsh
If you would like copies of any certificates that I may have please let me
know.
Must get my genes site uptodate. Love Sue